Well, then you should know better, that driving a package car and driving a semi, are totally different animals. Driving a package car does not qualify as a CDL job. I tell you even more, driving a yard truck aka being a UPS shifter, is not a qualified CDL job either, if you apply for a real CDL job outside of UPS, they will not count driving a yard truck towards your driving experience. Aside from that, even if you do streets or TDP here, usually UPSs stuff is easy drop and hook, let alone Linehaul, where you simply drive from pint A to point B on a pre-set route. Try grabbing a 53 and go Chicago(city, not suburbs) for multiple pickups/deliveries, that'll make you hair go gray by the end of the month :) When I say you over here, I mean a driver, not you personally)
Don't know where this was thrown off track, all I was talking about was off the street hires. Here they didn't have them because everyone wanted feeders, where you are and other places that hire off the street it's obvious UPS employees don't want it, here it was highly sought after by UPS employees and being in south Florida there wasn't a whole lot of places to go like in states surrounded by other states. I get what you're saying about TDP in Chicago I'm sure it's a nightmare I hated when asked to start my run early to cover a TDP pickup and it was nowhere near big city bullshit but still early enough to deal with traffic.
No, you're wrong. The fact that they displace 2 part timers is not an explanation. In fact I am off the street on layoff, I've personally displaced 2 part timers a month ago, my rate stayed the same and in fact I got a raise, as I've recently hit my 2 yrs at UPS. So total misinformation buddy :) We have 30 feeders who went inside, everybody kept their rate, rate progression and all of the benefits. It just it sucks for the pro trucker to load the packages or to fuel/wash trucks.
Unfortunately depending on where you are on your feeder seniority list and the way Carol is destroying this company you may not see the inside of a tractor for a long time.
Traffic is not a big issue, Chicago streets are tight and low bridges are all over the city, we had sleeper team hitting the low bridge about a year ago, it was in the news, I am attaching a link if you wanna watch it. And the packages immediately got stolen by the local brothers :)
That has got to be one of the worst loaded trailers I have ever seen and I've seen some bad ones.
Off the street hires are one of the reasons I always vote no on contracts. I don’t hate them. But I hate that they exist. It’s not so bad if it’s a guy that gets qualified and immediately moved back into management. But when it’s someone else that stays, that often prolongs a part timers time as a part timer for even longer. Often years.
I cringe when I hear an off the street driver complaining about how many years they have until they can retire. Meanwhile…..the driver that had to wait nine years to go full-time is standing next to them staring a hole through their skull. 🤣
No, you're wrong. The fact that they displace 2 part timers is not an explanation. In fact I am off the street on layoff, I've personally displaced 2 part timers a month ago, my rate stayed the same and in fact I got a raise, as I've recently hit my 2 yrs at UPS. So total misinformation buddy :) We have 30 feeders who went inside, everybody kept their rate, rate progression and all of the benefits. It just it sucks for the pro trucker to load the packages or to fuel/wash trucks.
Lol I can assure you I’m not wrong. I don’t know how it works in Chicago if you’re gonna step to me and tell me, I’m telling you misinformation you better get up a little earlier in the day jackass. Many of them has decided to start trying to qualify for package car driving because they don’t wanna make their hub rate.
Nope they don't have them down here, took me 25 years to get into feeders.
Smaller places don’t generally get people from off the street for Feeders because most of the time people want to move into Feeders. For a couple years we had trouble getting people to sign up to go to feeders class.
Feeders who are laid off and go inside, keep their rates and the rate progression, it used to be a 10 dollar rate drop back in the days
No here before you start spouting off, you have to understand not everyone has the same rules. Some locals have a rider that gives them things that others don’t have for example Feeders here has unlimited bumping.
This is a personal preference, you were working a non-qualified jobs for 25 years, while off the street drivers were driving semis for decades. Who's the pro ? :) On the other hand, now you're rewarded with the company time, and we're rewarded with layoff time :)
Lol, you really believe your own bullshit don’t you? A 25 year package car driver goes to Feeders and would be bumping your ass right down to the bottom here young man. Your time elsewhere means Jack shit.
For city drivers, off the street should be the only option to go with, because loaders or package car drivers are clueless how to drive semi, so they should not even try)))))))))))))))))))
So now the truth comes out you’re just a butt hurt tractor-trailer driver who thinks he’s more important. Poor baby. If all these companies are so much better, why don’t you go work there? If not, sit down and shut up instead of acting like a little bitch.
Yes, my time in the semi means I'm a pro, and driving a package car for 25 years, means a person doesn't know how to drive a truck. It all that means, not more, not less))
Lol no wonder you’ve been whining and moaning about the company going out of business. They’re not going out of business. You’re just not gonna have a job because you don’t have seniority.. lol sorry buddy again your time at other companies means absolutely nothing here.
It it what it is, it's too late to go somewhere else at 50. I would go T-Force, but they're not hiring for the past couple of years now, also I would loose my 2 years of Pension here, this is what happened at Yellow, I was there for 4 and 1/2 years, and didn't get vested, even though it was only a 75/mo for their miserable Pension, aha hah. But everybody is paying like 30-38 per hour at the best, so I'm staying here, until Carol runs this company down to the ground. She has started by selling T-Force(UPS Freight), then she sold everything and betrayed everyone.
She sold T force because freight is a losing business probably one of the only things that she did correctly in the past few years. It would be laughable if you went to work for T force because they’re about as poorly run as any freight company you could imagine.
Unfortunately depending on where you are on your feeder seniority list and the way Carol is destroying this company you may not see the inside of a tractor for a long time.
100% the company wants him and almost every feeder driver hired off the street after 2020 to quit. I’ve heard some of these laid off guys say they’re gonna quit we shouldn’t be laid off. All I can say is you’re not threatening the company that’s exactly what they want. 🤷♂️
For city drivers, off the street should be the only option to go with, because loaders or package car drivers are clueless how to drive semi, so they should not even try)))))))))))))))))))
Everyone starts somewhere asshole you were not tractor trailer qualified when you came out of your mamas vagina dipshit
Exactly, but why would UPS risk by making rookies their drivers, when there's plenty of experienced drivers out there ? There should be minimum 5 years accident free semi experience requirement to get hired by this company. This is common sense safe practice. Not nice saying shit that you've said, you're old but didn't get smarter with your age, lol
Because UPS thinks you’re training as a tractor-trailer driver was crap. If they didn’t train you, they don’t care much about your experience. Similar to package car they don’t care if somebody worked for FedEx as a delivery driver.We have eight feeder drivers, currently trying to qualify as package car drivers only two are going to make it. The 6 will be forced to go back and work in the building. The only other option they have is to find a 22.3 job that they can qualify for. Otherwise, they’ll be loading and unloading packages at their hub rate here, or they can move onto another company.
if you’re making your feeder pay to work in the building, you should be grateful. Keep your head down and get to work. All of us had to experience layoffs when we didn’t have seniority.
Exactly, but why would UPS risk by making rookies their drivers, when there's plenty of experienced drivers out there ? There should be minimum 5 years accident free semi experience requirement to get hired by this company. This is common sense safe practice. Not nice saying shit that you've said, you're old but didn't get smarter with your age, lol
Because they train us just like you were trained...probably better than you were. Where were you trained Joe's truck driving academy? The local junior collage?
Yea know it makes sense now...you drove with Yellow freight right? I worked one day after retirement with a company driving tractor trailers and the guy who came out with me was a ex-Yellow freight employee. So I ask how they keep track of DOT hours(no electronic system in the truck)do you have log books or do I need my own? He says no we're local we don't need one, but wait the owner told me you guys just drove from West Palm Beach to Orlando to Jacksonville back to West Palm Beach in one night well over the miles for log requirements. Then tells me he didn't take 10 hours off before working the next day while being a 1099 employee so more than responsible for his hours. Also telling me he's a 25+ year tractor trailer driver just like your dumbass. Needless to say that job lasted one day for me.
These whiny little girls that come from off the street that think they are something special crack me up.
I knew a guy who left our feeder dept and went to Ohio and started over right around Covid and two guys that worked for Pepsi came over, both ended up having multiple accidents and were eventually fired. The guy from here is still there.
