Just claim it regardless. What are they going to do about it?
No Tax on Overtime
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You'll have plenty of buyout money to cover the tax Leins
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You'll have plenty of buyout money to cover the tax Leins
Folk don't appreciate the humor in your statement?
I do not understand the attack responses?
Cleaned the end of this one up just a little.
We have about three actually "useful" threads going on right now, so I figured it may be worth it to keep it at least readable.
Cleaned the end of this one up just a little.
We have about three actually "useful" threads going on right now, so I figured it may be worth it to keep it at least readable.
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Well, my tax accountant says he sees no reason why I don’t qualify. 🤷♂️
That's because being an exempt or non-exempt hourly employee under the FLSA has never been a tax issue and most tax accountants don't really know or have not gone down the rabbit hole far enough to see that UPS drivers are exempt employees under the FLSA, due to Motor Carrier Exemption, as stated in the law, and are thus ineligible for the no tax on OT. We are FLSA exempt employees.
Motor Carrier Exemption
https://www.transportation.gov/civil-rights/civil-rights-library/motor-carrier-exemption-under-fair-labor-standards-act-flsa
And the law states for tax years 2025 through 2028, individuals who receive qualified overtime compensation may deduct the pay that exceeds their regular rate of pay (generally, the “half” portion of “time-and-a-half” compensation) that is required by the Fair Labor Standards Act.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/treasury-irs-provide-guidance-for-individuals-who-received-tips-or-overtime-during-tax-year-2025
UPS is not required to pay us OT under the FLSA because we are exempt from the FLSA under the Motor Carrier Exemption. So our OT is not deductible.
Have your tax guy dig a little deeper and see what he says.
That's because being an exempt or non-exempt hourly employee under the FLSA has never been a tax issue and most tax accountants don't really know or have not gone down the rabbit hole far enough to see that UPS drivers are exempt employees under the FLSA, due to Motor Carrier Exemption, as stated in the law, and are thus ineligible for the no tax on OT. We are FLSA exempt employees.
Motor Carrier Exemption
https://www.transportation.gov/civil-rights/civil-rights-library/motor-carrier-exemption-under-fair-labor-standards-act-flsa
And the law states for tax years 2025 through 2028, individuals who receive qualified overtime compensation may deduct the pay that exceeds their regular rate of pay (generally, the “half” portion of “time-and-a-half” compensation) that is required by the Fair Labor Standards Act.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/treasury-irs-provide-guidance-for-individuals-who-received-tips-or-overtime-during-tax-year-2025
UPS is not required to pay us OT under the FLSA because we are exempt from the FLSA under the Motor Carrier Exemption. So our OT is not deductible.
Have your tax guy dig a little deeper and see what he says.
They don't want to hear that, and who can blame them?
Their hero just continues to disappoint everybody but the rich man and corporations.
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They don't want to hear that, and who can blame them?
Their hero just continues to disappoint everybody but the rich man and corporations.
Yep.
Although I claimed it anyway. Worst case scenario is that they catch it some time down the road and make me pay it back. I will have made more on that money than the IRS will charge me in interest.
I also think it is bullcrap that Carol at the local Home Depot can deduct her OT but I can't.
Or worse, that a 22.3 or full-time inside employee here at UPS, the same company I work for, can deduct their OT but I can't just because I drive.
They don't want to hear that, and who can blame them?
Their hero just continues to disappoint everybody but the rich man and corporations.
🤡🤡🤡 I guess there are only UPS employees in America. 🤡🤡🤡
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Wait, the TDS crowd is mad about not being able to take advantage of something Trump got passed? Lol, You should be glad. You automatically hate everything he does or wants to happen?
Even if you could take a deduction, you should refuse to. Walk the walk!
Wait, the TDS crowd is mad about not being able to take advantage of something Trump got passed? Lol, You should be glad. You automatically hate everything he does or wants to happen?
Even if you could take a deduction, you should refuse to. Walk the walk!
He’s a clown
Yep.
Although I claimed it anyway. Worst case scenario is that they catch it some time down the road and make me pay it back. I will have made more on that money than the IRS will charge me in interest.
I also think it is bullcrap that Carol at the local Home Depot can deduct her OT but I can't.
Or worse, that a 22.3 or full-time inside employee here at UPS, the same company I work for, can deduct their OT but I can't just because I drive.
You guys will probably be okay, as most government agencies like the IRS have been DOGE'd to the bare bones, so there won't be the resources available necessary to audit all the erroneous deductions made by UPS drivers this year.....unless AI takes over????
That's because being an exempt or non-exempt hourly employee under the FLSA has never been a tax issue and most tax accountants don't really know or have not gone down the rabbit hole far enough to see that UPS drivers are exempt employees under the FLSA, due to Motor Carrier Exemption, as stated in the law, and are thus ineligible for the no tax on OT. We are FLSA exempt employees.
Motor Carrier Exemption
https://www.transportation.gov/civil-rights/civil-rights-library/motor-carrier-exemption-under-fair-labor-standards-act-flsa
And the law states for tax years 2025 through 2028, individuals who receive qualified overtime compensation may deduct the pay that exceeds their regular rate of pay (generally, the “half” portion of “time-and-a-half” compensation) that is required by the Fair Labor Standards Act.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/treasury-irs-provide-guidance-for-individuals-who-received-tips-or-overtime-during-tax-year-2025
UPS is not required to pay us OT under the FLSA because we are exempt from the FLSA under the Motor Carrier Exemption. So our OT is not deductible.
Have your tax guy dig a little deeper and see what he says.
Well, he did dig deeper. And says we still qualify for a portion of it. As well as he has received memos from the IRS saying this is a transition year and the likelihood of an Audit being triggered by this is very unlikely.
But again that’s why I pay him the big bucks and I don’t do it myself.
For the record, this wasn’t any kind of windfall at all lol.
You guys will probably be okay, as most government agencies like the IRS have been DOGE'd to the bare bones, so there won't be the resources available necessary to audit all the erroneous deductions made by UPS drivers this year.....unless AI takes over????
My guess is AI is exactly the plan. Most people hate talking to a government agency worker. Wait till they have to deal with AI. It will be hell.
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