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1030 · 2025-08-07 20:59 · 951 views

I am curious to hear what ideas you all have for improvements to ask for in the next contract.

I'll start

I would like to see article 11 section 1 a. (i) rewritten.
Preferably it should be "Full-time drivers who have worked in the classification for 5 years or more shall not be forced into a Tuesday-Saturday workweek but shall be allowed to bid such workweek according to the applicable Supplement, Rider or Addendum."
This would make it so there is a rolling cutoff date for who can and cannot be forced into a Tues-Sat schedule. If the company won't agree to a rolling date then "August,1, 2019" should be changed to "August,1, 2024". The next contract will be 5 years from the last so it would be nice to set a standard that every contract cycle the date should move 5 years forward. All the rest of the dates in subsection a. will need to be changed similarly.

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Also all this highlighted stuff needs to be removed. It's not needed anymore and nothing good can come from keeping it in.

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I'd like to see a link to the Master and Regional Supplements added to the top of Union Discussions.


I'd like to see a link to the Master and Regional Supplements added to the top of Union Discussions.

https://teamster.org/ups-ta-2023-2028/


I'll start

I would like to see article 11 section 1 a. (i) rewritten.
Preferably it should be "Full-time drivers who have worked in the classification for 5 years or more shall not be forced into a Tuesday-Saturday workweek but shall be allowed to bid such workweek according to the applicable Supplement, Rider or Addendum."
This would make it so there is a rolling cutoff date for who can and cannot be forced into a Tues-Sat schedule. If the company won't agree to a rolling date then "August,1, 2019" should be changed to "August,1, 2024". The next contract will be 5 years from the last so it would be nice to set a standard that every contract cycle the date should move 5 years forward. All the rest of the dates in subsection a. will need to be changed similarly.

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Also all this highlighted stuff needs to be removed. It's not needed anymore and nothing good can come from keeping it in.

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Never going to happen. New drivers are going to be Tuesday thru Saturday for a lot longer than 5 years. Probably looking at 10-15 years before getting off Saturdays.

I’d like to get rid of classification seniority nationwide so that no one will ever have to lose seniority when they switch jobs. Company seniority should always apply. Not sometimes.

Over 9.5 penalty pay (including quad pay) should be automatic and not require grievances or “committees” to trigger them.

No more TCDs. Anywhere.

Extra work should be exactly that. Work in addition to one’s normal shift/work. Not a way for seniority drivers to get a report and then take a layoff. Or get their routes reduced. Once you’re on the clock, you stay. No going home after preload or air sort. If you don’t want the EXTRA work. Don’t sign up for it.

Better protections for bid route drivers nation wide. Similar to what some supplements already have. Such as bumping rights for those affected by rogue dispatchers that screw up the routes.

Lazy dispatchers sending us out with multiple roads and stops with the same sequence numbers in the summer should be a safety violation with a penalty similar to proven cases of harassment.


I’d like to get rid of classification seniority nationwide so that no one will ever have to lose seniority when they switch jobs. Company seniority should always apply. Not sometimes.

Over 9.5 penalty pay (including quad pay) should be automatic and not require grievances or “committees” to trigger them.

No more TCDs. Anywhere.

Extra work should be exactly that. Work in addition to one’s normal shift/work. Not a way for seniority drivers to get a report and then take a layoff. Or get their routes reduced. Once you’re on the clock, you stay. No going home after preload or air sort. If you don’t want the EXTRA work. Don’t sign up for it.

Better protections for bid route drivers nation wide. Similar to what some supplements already have. Such as bumping rights for those affected by rogue dispatchers that screw up the routes.

Lazy dispatchers sending us out with multiple roads and stops with the same sequence numbers in the summer should be a safety violation with a penalty similar to proven cases of harassment.

My thoughts exactly on 9.5 language….. in my opinion if you are on the 9.5 list any day over 9.5 is automatic pay.

Not to be a downer, but we all know UPS will be crying poverty in the next negotiation. We'll be lucky if we don't face a bunch of concessions. For the first time UPS' long term future is looking doubtful. UPS has been setting the narrative all year. They also bargained the big raise for the last year (aside from the first year inflation catch up). That way workers go into negotiations on the heels of the 2nd biggest raise ever. How could we possibly strike?

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Highest increase in Healthcare costs since 2010 expected next year. Keeping our benefits intact come contract time will be a fight.

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We’re all sick of excessive overtime right . Everyone pay attention, and spread this idea


UPS PAYS INTO PENSION FOR ALL HOURS WORKED , not just the first 8


We’re all sick of excessive overtime right . Everyone pay attention, and spread this idea


UPS PAYS INTO PENSION FOR ALL HOURS WORKED , not just the first 8

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I'll start

I would like to see article 11 section 1 a. (i) rewritten.
Preferably it should be "Full-time drivers who have worked in the classification for 5 years or more shall not be forced into a Tuesday-Saturday workweek but shall be allowed to bid such workweek according to the applicable Supplement, Rider or Addendum."
This would make it so there is a rolling cutoff date for who can and cannot be forced into a Tues-Sat schedule. If the company won't agree to a rolling date then "August,1, 2019" should be changed to "August,1, 2024". The next contract will be 5 years from the last so it would be nice to set a standard that every contract cycle the date should move 5 years forward. All the rest of the dates in subsection a. will need to be changed similarly.

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Also all this highlighted stuff needs to be removed. It's not needed anymore and nothing good can come from keeping it in.

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Why not just go with the age old standard, "ask from the top and force from the bottom"?

Let business needs dictate the schedules.


Why not just go with the age old standard, "ask from the top and force from the bottom"?

Let business needs dictate the schedules.

That would be fine if it was still only a max 25% of drivers in the center can be on a tues-sat schedule but with the elimination of 22.4 there's no limit on the amount of drivers that can be 'forced' into a tues-sat schedule. The way things are now when a m-f guy retires the company doesn't have move someone else up.

That would be fine if it was still only a max 25% of drivers in the center can be on a tues-sat schedule but with the elimination of 22.4 there's no limit on the amount of drivers that can be 'forced' into a tues-sat schedule. The way things are now when a m-f guy retires the company doesn't have move someone else up.


Wouldn't that happen when someone gets hired, not retired?


Not sure it is prudent to prohibit the Company contractually from offering services on any day of the week.

....ask from the top and force from the bottom.

Everyone hates seniority until they have it.



Wouldn't that happen when someone gets hired, not retired?


Not sure it is prudent to prohibit the Company contractually from offering services on any day of the week.

....ask from the top and force from the bottom.

Everyone hates seniority until they have it.

The issue is that there is no protected number of Monday to Friday jobs. How long should someone be made to work a tues-sat schedule? Indefinitely? There is no clearly defined pathway to securing a Monday to Friday schedule under this contract.
Under the old contract if the center had 100 drivers and 25 were tues-sat, that's 25%. If one of the m-f drivers retired the center would have 99 drivers and 25.25% of them would be tues-sat which was in excess of the 25% limit so someone had to be moved up.
Hypothetically let's say there's a center where all the drivers were hired after Aug 1 2019 and are 0323s. There's nowhere like this right now, but there will be in the future. Labor day falls on Monday the 1st but the company doesn't want to lose any production this week, so they notify every driver currently on a Monday to Friday schedule in the center 10 business days in advance that the week of Monday Sept 1st their workweek schedule will be Tuesday to Saturday and the following week their schedule will revert to Monday to Friday. Nothing wrong with that under this contract.

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You don't see these things as problems that need to be resolved? I'm not saying I've come up with the perfect solution but it's an idea at least.

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The issue is that there is no protected number of Monday to Friday jobs. How long should someone be made to work a tues-sat schedule? Indefinitely? There is no clearly defined pathway to securing a Monday to Friday schedule under this contract.
Under the old contract if the center had 100 drivers and 25 were tues-sat, that's 25%. If one of the m-f drivers retired the center would have 99 drivers and 25.25% of them would be tues-sat which was in excess of the 25% limit so someone had to be moved up.
Hypothetically let's say there's a center where all the drivers were hired after Aug 1 2019 and are 0323s. There's nowhere like this right now, but there will be in the future. Labor day falls on Monday the 1st but the company doesn't want to lose any production this week, so they notify every driver currently on a Monday to Friday schedule in the center 10 business days in advance that the week of Monday Sept 1st their workweek schedule will be Tuesday to Saturday and the following week their schedule will revert to Monday to Friday. Nothing wrong with that under this contract.

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You don't see these things as problems that need to be resolved? I'm not saying I've come up with the perfect solution but it's an idea at least.

I see the answer being that the Company should be able to staff their operational needs.Therefore the only answer is to observe the age old standard of "ask from the top and force from the bottom".

We need the Company to be profitable and competitive.

Everyone hate seniority until they have it.

You'll be off Saturday once there is enough people below you to cover Saturdays. It all depends on how many old farts retire and how fast they get replaced.


You'll be off Saturday once there is enough people below you to cover Saturdays. It all depends on how many old farts retire and how fast they get replaced.

UPS needs a better buyout offer.

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