I’d like to clear something up here and explain these people you keep calling “leaders” at the local level are really not leaders. They are representatives..
They are package car, drivers feeder drivers
Who members chose to represent them .
If at any time, people feel, they have not been represented properly those people can be voted out and sent right back to the package car and the feeder trucks.
Most of those people in Feeders and in package car that took these jobs as representatives took a pay cut to do so. It’s not even debatable.
Well from what I've been told by union "representatives" who take time off from their UPS job to do union political work or union functions,etc are paid their UPS wage, so maybe where you are they're getting fucked.
Well from what I've been told by union "representatives" who take time off from their UPS job to do union political work or union functions,etc are paid their UPS wage, so maybe where you are they're getting fucked.
Nah. As a steward when I takeoff I get lost time paid at my rate of pay. I don’t get overtime though.. so I certainly lose money that day
You can go to unionfacts.com and search any local union and every leader salary.
The President of my local was a mileage guy before taking his position. He routinely makes between $20-$35,000 less than he would’ve if he had stayed on in Feeders..
My business agent is a package car I routinely make between 10 and $18,000 more a year than he does.
Now someone will say that’s because of the overtime and that’s certainly true. But if you think business agents aren’t answering their phones at all times of the day and night you’d be mistaken. Just as a steward, I get phone calls at 10 PM on Saturday nights lol.
I don’t have to answer them, but sometimes it’s the right thing to do.
Nah. As a steward when I takeoff I get lost time paid at my rate of pay. I don’t get overtime though.. so I certainly lose money that day
You can go to unionfacts.com and search any local union and every leader salary.
The President of my local was a mileage guy before taking his position. He routinely makes between $20-$35,000 less than he would’ve if he had stayed on in Feeders..
My business agent is a package car I routinely make between 10 and $18,000 more a year than he does.
Now someone will say that’s because of the overtime and that’s certainly true. But if you think business agents aren’t answering their phones at all times of the day and night you’d be mistaken. Just as a steward, I get phone calls at 10 PM on Saturday nights lol.
I don’t have to answer them, but sometimes it’s the right thing to do.
Well if you're talking overtime pay of course not, but regular salary? They do here. Our business agent are no longer UPS employees they work strictly for the Union hall, now did they work at UPS at one time? Sure. Three stewards I know of left to work full time for the Local. One a few years before I left to do social networking and the other two took the last buyout and are now business agents. Stewards here take time away from their job to do the political stuff and memberships drives, etc and get their regular UPS pay when finished they go back to their jobs.
Well if you're talking overtime pay of course not, but regular salary? They do here. Our business agent are no longer UPS employees they work strictly for the Union hall, now did they work at UPS at one time? Sure. Three stewards I know of left to work full time for the Local. One a few years before I left to do social networking and the other two took the last buyout and are now business agents. Stewards here take time away from their job to do the political stuff and memberships drives, etc and get their regular UPS pay when finished they go back to their jobs.
Our stewards are drivers but business agents work for the union full time
Well if you're talking overtime pay of course not, but regular salary? They do here. Our business agent are no longer UPS employees they work strictly for the Union hall, now did they work at UPS at one time? Sure. Three stewards I know of left to work full time for the Local. One a few years before I left to do social networking and the other two took the last buyout and are now business agents. Stewards here take time away from their job to do the political stuff and memberships drives, etc and get their regular UPS pay when finished they go back to their jobs.
We have had retired members who are business agents that no longer work ups but. most of them still are on leave.
If they’re retired and they don’t win an election, they don’t have a job anymore. They just go to retirement.
And again, if I go out of town on Union business for hearing or something like that, I make 40 hours at my regular pay rate.
I probably average about 52 hours a week sometimes as many as 60 depending on a week. That’s still technically my regular salary but obviously with no overtime so a paycut. I don’t know anybody at UPS. They only get 40 hours. And yes, when I’m finished with that week, I go back to my regular job of course
Another little known fact is that anyone in team care, their local has a lower level of insurance. Pays a little less deductibles are a little higher.
Every executive board would have to decide if they’re losing members if they can continue to have on as many business agents as they do so some business agents may not have a job and will be going back to their UPS job, especially in the smaller locals that can barely get by now. That’s happening everywhere.
And the reason in the past, we’ve had retired members being business agents is because they couldn’t find anyone who is willing to take the pay cut and come out to the Union hall. That went along with all the hassle that comes with it.
We have had retired members who are business agents that no longer work ups but. most of them still are on leave.
If they’re retired and they don’t win an election, they don’t have a job anymore. They just go to retirement.
And again, if I go out of town on Union business for hearing or something like that, I make 40 hours at my regular pay rate.
I probably average about 52 hours a week sometimes as many as 60 depending on a week. That’s still technically my regular salary but obviously with no overtime so a paycut. I don’t know anybody at UPS. They only get 40 hours. And yes, when I’m finished with that week, I go back to my regular job of course
Another little known fact is that anyone in team care, their local has a lower level of insurance. Pays a little less deductibles are a little higher.
Every executive board would have to decide if they’re losing members if they can continue to have on as many business agents as they do so some business agents may not have a job and will be going back to their UPS job, especially in the smaller locals that can barely get by now. That’s happening everywhere.
And the reason in the past, we’ve had retired members being business agents is because they couldn’t find anyone who is willing to take the pay cut and come out to the Union hall. That went along with all the hassle that comes with it.
Well if these three guys lose their Union hall gig they aren't going back to UPS.
Well from what I've been told by union "representatives" who take time off from their UPS job to do union political work or union functions,etc are paid their UPS wage, so maybe where you are they're getting fucked.
