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@doublestandards said ↗Genuine question, is there any responsibility felt or needed by Christians to do more than ignore things like that when it’s coming from leaders of a country that are using Christianity for their own goals? And when our tax dollars are funding it, not that we have much choice, but they do represent us. But Especially when they make claims like we’re a “Christian nation”, does it get to a point where then leaders are doing harm to the religion by ignoring, or actively doing the opposite of what is taught while hiding behind the Christianity veil? Hope that makes sense, kinda hard to explain in text But is there anything the Bible says about that? I suppose the only thing I know of is the opposite regarding “he who cast the first stone” and what not, but they also talk about blasphemy, or is that not really for man to “punish” over?I think what @boxox was getting at regarding politics and consistency is like politicians love to talk about religions and sins and work it in to their legislation, but then also kind of completley ignoring other aspects or even doing the exact opposite of what the Bible called for. Like it kind of just got glossed over but we bombed an elementary school. Just straight up murdered children, if that hypothetically kept up and kept getting repeated, and was being done again and again by leaders of our country doing it falsely in the name of Christianity, is there an obligation to speak up and try to stop it at some point in gods eyes or is that more a matter between the people calling the shots and God?The responsibility would be to ask for forgiveness, just like all of us which apparently Donald Trump doesn’t think he needs to. Last I checked the only person who ever walked the face of the Earth Earth that didn’t need to was put on a cross. And even through all this Donald still has a chance to make it right.His biggest problem is his wealth. The Bible says it’s easier for a camel to pass through an eye of the need.and for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. It’s not merely because he’s richest because rich people think they are God.they’ve never had to lean on God for anything in their opinion.Other than that, like, I said, if you read the Bible, it’s filled with guys who were ordained by God, even sent by God, who were kind of turds. David saw a naked woman outside his window and had her husband killed in battle so he could sleep with her. Sampson was ordained by God and sent to free is real from the Philippines, but he couldn’t even keep his penis out Palestine women. And all of these guys were used by God there’s tons more just like it. Human beings are flawed. Looking into them for meaning and religion is proof that you’re looking at the wrong thing. Look to Jesus only.
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Genuine question, is there any responsibility felt or needed by Christians to do more than ignore things like that when it’s coming from leaders of a country that are using Christianity for their own goals? And when our tax dollars are funding it, not that we have much choice, but they do represent us. But Especially when they make claims like we’re a “Christian nation”, does it get to a point where then leaders are doing harm to the religion by ignoring, or actively doing the opposite of what is taught while hiding behind the Christianity veil?


Hope that makes sense, kinda hard to explain in text


But is there anything the Bible says about that? I suppose the only thing I know of is the opposite regarding “he who cast the first stone” and what not, but they also talk about blasphemy, or is that not really for man to “punish” over?


I think what @boxox was getting at regarding politics and consistency is like politicians love to talk about religions and sins and work it in to their legislation, but then also kind of completley ignoring other aspects or even doing the exact opposite of what the Bible called for. Like it kind of just got glossed over but we bombed an elementary school. Just straight up murdered children, if that hypothetically kept up and kept getting repeated, and was being done again and again by leaders of our country doing it falsely in the name of Christianity, is there an obligation to speak up and try to stop it at some point in gods eyes or is that more a matter between the people calling the shots and God?

The responsibility would be to ask for forgiveness, just like all of us which apparently Donald Trump doesn’t think he needs to. Last I checked the only person who ever walked the face of the Earth Earth that didn’t need to was put on a cross. And even through all this Donald still has a chance to make it right.

His biggest problem is his wealth. The Bible says it’s easier for a camel to pass through an eye of the need.and for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. It’s not merely because he’s richest because rich people think they are God.they’ve never had to lean on God for anything in their opinion.



Other than that, like, I said, if you read the Bible, it’s filled with guys who were ordained by God, even sent by God, who were kind of turds. David saw a naked woman outside his window and had her husband killed in battle so he could sleep with her.

Sampson was ordained by God and sent to free is real from the Philippines, but he couldn’t even keep his penis out Palestine women.

And all of these guys were used by God there’s tons more just like it. Human beings are flawed. Looking into them for meaning and religion is proof that you’re looking at the wrong thing.


Look to Jesus only.

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Genuine question, is there any responsibility felt or needed by Christians to do more than ignore things like that when it’s coming from leaders of a country that are using Christianity for their own goals? And when our tax dollars are funding it, not that we have much choice, but they do represent us. But Especially when they make claims like we’re a “Christian nation”, does it get to a point where then leaders are doing harm to the religion by ignoring, or actively doing the opposite of what is taught while hiding behind the Christianity veil?


Hope that makes sense, kinda hard to explain in text


But is there anything the Bible says about that? I suppose the only thing I know of is the opposite regarding “he who cast the first stone” and what not, but they also talk about blasphemy, or is that not really for man to “punish” over?


I think what @boxox was getting at regarding politics and consistency is like politicians love to talk about religions and sins and work it in to their legislation, but then also kind of completley ignoring other aspects or even doing the exact opposite of what the Bible called for. Like it kind of just got glossed over but we bombed an elementary school. Just straight up murdered children, if that hypothetically kept up and kept getting repeated, and was being done again and again by leaders of our country doing it falsely in the name of Christianity, is there an obligation to speak up and try to stop it at some point in gods eyes or is that more a matter between the people calling the shots and God?

The responsibility would be to ask for forgiveness, just like all of us which apparently Donald Trump doesn’t think he needs to. Last I checked the only person who ever walked the face of the Earth that didn’t need to was put on a cross. And even through all this Donald still has a chance to make it right.

His biggest problem is his wealth. The Bible says it’s easier for a camel to pass through an eye of the need.and for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. It’s not merely because he’s richest because rich people think they are God.they’ve never had to lean on God for anything in their opinion.



Other than that, like, I said, if you read the Bible, it’s filled with guys who were ordained by God, even sent by God, who were kind of turds. David saw a naked woman outside his window and had her husband killed in battle so he could sleep with her.

Sampson was ordained by God and sent to free is real from the Philippines, but he couldn’t even keep his penis out Palestine women.

And all of these guys were used by God there’s tons more just like it. Human beings are flawed. Looking into them for meaning and religion is proof that you’re looking at the wrong thing.


Look to Jesus only.