Keep your money and find a new job. All your time at UPS will be wasted if you drain your savings on a losing case.
He says he feels like he wasted all these years at UPS, but in reality he did not he made a good wage and had good benefits. I’m certain he’ll land on his feet somewhere.
Don’t really want my job back I’m hoping an attorney thinks I can sue lol. Fuck them . I had 21 years I could have got almost 40k from those scum bags buyout .. now I’m out on my ass starting over .
It’s entertaining to get texts every day from all my teamster brothers out working til 1130 😂
It’s entertaining to get texts every day from all my teamster brothers out working til 1130 😂
Definitely sticking it to everyone this year. Probably gonna offer another buyout, hoping peak was so terrible people want to get out of here.
Definitely sticking it to everyone this year. Probably gonna offer another buyout, hoping peak was so terrible people want to get out of here.
I mentioned a Coke job in our group chat . It’s t-s 5 am - 230, and it’s teamster . Half of them said they want to leave now 😂
Sounds like a dream job. Just couldn't get hammered Friday nights.
People are def getting fired now for things that would have been a warning letter a few years ago.
Why did the Union fail him
Damn, been a long time since I've seen your screen name. Good to see you Brother. You still in Ely?
They "failed" him because he isn't telling us the whole story. I would wager that he has multiple unprofessional conduct issues on file. That there was more than just a middle finger and an angry customer call. If the arbitrator canned him then the burden of proof was met in the eyes of a3rd party observer.
I mean just look at his cavalier attitude about being fired for stealing time. "it was only 30 steps..." "Everyone has to drink..."
Union didn't fail him. He failed himself and from what it sounds like. He failed himself multiple times.
Damn, been a long time since I've seen your screen name. Good to see you Brother. You still in Ely?
They "failed" him because he isn't telling us the whole story. I would wager that he has multiple unprofessional conduct issues on file. That there was more than just a middle finger and an angry customer call. If the arbitrator canned him then the burden of proof was met in the eyes of a3rd party observer.
I mean just look at his cavalier attitude about being fired for stealing time. "it was only 30 steps..." "Everyone has to drink..."
Union didn't fail him. He failed himself and from what it sounds like. He failed himself multiple times.
He had current discipline on record.... If it was past nine months, it wouldn't have mattered.
Everyone's first reaction is to get a lawyer. Good luck. Panel decisions are final and binding.
@boxspecialist should have read that in the contract.
He had current discipline on record.... If it was past nine months, it wouldn't have mattered.
Everyone's first reaction is to get a lawyer. Good luck. Panel decisions are final and binding.
@boxspecialist should have read that in the contract.
Ive always read that I union companies are way more protected from termination lawsuits than non union companies.
Ive always read that I union companies are way more protected from termination lawsuits than non union companies.
They actually are. It takes quite a bit of work for management to actually get a person permanently terminated.
I did read the panel is final . That doesn’t mean ups followed the contract . I also guarentee this person who thinks my statement about getting a drink : has at some point in their career . Had to buy a drink . You guys really want to attack a teamster right now . You sound like them . I understand rules , yes there is “more to the story” I already posted I had a code of conduct issue in February .
I did read the panel is final . That doesn’t mean ups followed the contract . I also guarentee this person who thinks my statement about getting a drink : has at some point in their career . Had to buy a drink . You guys really want to attack a teamster right now . You sound like them . I understand rules , yes there is “more to the story” I already posted I had a code of conduct issue in February .
Nobody’s attacking you and nobody says they have not done something like this as well we’re talking about you. You claim you had a target on your back. You may have, good luck proving that, but if you already knew it, you gave them all the ammo they needed. If you’re going to play the game, know the rules.
you are of course more than welcome to chase this as far as you feel it’s necessary, but it is a rabbit hole that I’ve seen very few people come out the other side.
Yeah, I definitely had a target my manager didn’t like me. This issue could have happened to anybody I just happen to be the truck that was in this guy’s way. He was in a hurry and wanted to get around everybody and I was the guy that held him up.. another driver wrote a statement about this guy’s driving, the other UPS driver was a few miles behind me, and this guy went swerving in and out of all the traffic all the way until he got to me.. his statement wasn’t notarized so that was thrown out at panel, my Union steward was not allowed to come either , and they didn’t bring up the article 37 on my boss . They pulled every string they could to hurt me .
I did read the panel is final . That doesn’t mean ups followed the contract . I also guarentee this person who thinks my statement about getting a drink : has at some point in their career . Had to buy a drink . You guys really want to attack a teamster right now . You sound like them . I understand rules , yes there is “more to the story” I already posted I had a code of conduct issue in February .
If you were terminated for “stealing time” for buying that drink, and you accepted the reduced termination or went to a panel and was given your job back as a mercy case and to not do it again. You are on paper a time thief. If you accepted the discipline you received for your previous incident of inappropriate behavior or workplace violence. You are in fact, a two time offender.
These are the things the panels look at. Doesn’t matter if it was BS it stays on your record.
Yeah, I definitely had a target my manager didn’t like me. This issue could have happened to anybody I just happen to be the truck that was in this guy’s way. He was in a hurry and wanted to get around everybody and I was the guy that held him up.. another driver wrote a statement about this guy’s driving, the other UPS driver was a few miles behind me, and this guy went swerving in and out of all the traffic all the way until he got to me.. his statement wasn’t notarized so that was thrown out at panel, my Union steward was not allowed to come either , and they didn’t bring up the article 37 on my boss . They pulled every string they could to hurt me .
I’m sorry they were targeting you. It sucks. I don’t know all the details..
But let me reiterate I hope you win whatever case you decide to take although I have a great deal of confidence you will not.
I’m sorry they were targeting you. It sucks. I don’t know all the details..
But let me reiterate I hope you win whatever case you decide to take although I have a great deal of confidence you will not.
It’s nothing I’ll invest money into , but I’m still going to see what they . My bosses didn’t like me because I spoke my mine when dispatch did what dispatch does . And complained about all the other bs that made our life hard. So ya that’s all on me , hard to bite my tongue when I have a bulk delivery that should be at the back and they randomly put it in the 1000 shelf and my truck is loaded to the roof with Home Depot bulk , always doing something to make things harder . I busted my ass for that place.. if a fellow driver needed help I was the guy that helped . . A lot of times I didn’t even get asked. I would ask the boss , do you want me to go help this person. I always volunteered to work Saturdays for peak.. I gave a lot to that company. And again, 21 years , and never really had an issue until this manager.
It’s nothing I’ll invest money into , but I’m still going to see what they . My bosses didn’t like me because I spoke my mine when dispatch did what dispatch does . And complained about all the other bs that made our life hard. So ya that’s all on me , hard to bite my tongue when I have a bulk delivery that should be at the back and they randomly put it in the 1000 shelf and my truck is loaded to the roof with Home Depot bulk , always doing something to make things harder . I busted my ass for that place.. if a fellow driver needed help I was the guy that helped . . A lot of times I didn’t even get asked. I would ask the boss , do you want me to go help this person. I always volunteered to work Saturdays for peak.. I gave a lot to that company. And again, 21 years , and never really had an issue until this manager.
If you can find someone to do it, pro bono go for it. Wouldn’t want you to waste a lot of money on something that rarely gets traction.
there are other jobs out there, and they may not pay as much, but the quality of life and work life balance are often better. Once the stinging of this dies down, I think you’ll be fine.
I did read the panel is final . That doesn’t mean ups followed the contract . I also guarentee this person who thinks my statement about getting a drink : has at some point in their career . Had to buy a drink . You guys really want to attack a teamster right now . You sound like them . I understand rules , yes there is “more to the story” I already posted I had a code of conduct issue in February .
That was me that made that statement. So tell me... why did this road rage person become an issue when he cut you off? Did he call it in? Did you get in an accident? Did you threaten him when he went off on you? Whats the whole story? I have noticed that all we have gotten is your side of how bad you got screwed over. So what did the other side say you did that was so bad?
This is the POS . Looked like 280 lbs of steroids . Also fairly certain he’s a sex offender for touching his 11 year old cousin . He’s been divorced . Does hvac for mommy’s company . I did some digging . Not that it helped , cuz ups can fire ya for anything .
Hey man.
I had to edit this one. We can't do pictures of this guy, or details like name, etc...
Not trying to take sides, but my Christmas will go a little bit better if I'm not getting sued.
From a liability standpoint, you know?
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