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Interesting set up for life?

gumby · 2025-08-11 21:56 · 1138 views


You're gonna be wondering, she's a shareholder and a member of the Board of Directors since 2011 I believe, way before she was CEO. And look at what they're doing to this company. I get it that she's got her 20M salary and she doesn't give a crap about UPS, but what about rest of them over there. Stock price is about to hit 80 and they still won't let her go

Because they’re purposely doing this so they can buy more just like she did. They will let this volume go to other carriers for almost no money. Watch them suffer and get the volume back at a higher price when those carriers cannot do the job. And if she can make the company look bad enough through the next contract even better for her and she’ll get a deal because of all the fear people are spreading .


I haven't seen CACH buried for years now, and for the past 2 years it's empty. Yesterday it was empty in fact, both Primaries had 5-10 trailers sitting on them, half of the bays for Primaries and for the Outbound were empty all day long, so I don't know who told you it was buried.

The same people that told us we were buried because we are buried.



Yesterday it was announced that Addison,IL is laying off 11 more 705 feeders, I'm pretty sure it's gonna hit almost every Hub again

We’ve had layoffs in feeders for the last two years, were one of the biggest feeders departments in the country. And before Covid layoffs we’re not abnormal in Feeders or package car. It happened every year, even as far back as when I was a pup. Although we haven’t had a layoff in package car since 2019. Over 600 feeder drivers in my local and we’ve had a minimum of 60 laid off for a couple years for a good portion of the year.


So tell people who told you that CACH is buried, that they should stop smokin'. This is the picture I took yesterday for you at CACH. As you can see the west Primary is empty, aside from a few loaded trailers and a couple of empties sitting in the Preload spots. East Primary is even emptier than that all day long, as well as at night, the only difference is that at night those bays are also empty, because no trailers, nothing to unload. Even the parking lot is half empty, because there's no need for people, no packages, no work. CACH was looking exactly like this for the past 2 years now. This company is heading the Yellow way down to the bankruptcy.

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There is a motive behind this

Union busting


So tell people who told you that CACH is buried, that they should stop smokin'. This is the picture I took yesterday for you at CACH. As you can see the west Primary is empty, aside from a few loaded trailers and a couple of empties sitting in the Preload spots. East Primary is even emptier than that all day long, as well as at night, the only difference is that at night those bays are also empty, because no trailers, nothing to unload. Even the parking lot is half empty, because there's no need for people, no packages, no work. CACH was looking exactly like this for the past 2 years now. This company is heading the Yellow way down to the bankruptcy.

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I guess the biggest hub in our network is being bypassed ? I can take a picture of the parking lot at my building at different points. And it looks pretty empty, but we’re by no means slow. Almost every driver worked 12 hours every day this week and that is just in the center. The hub is certainly nowhere near as busy as it was during Covid, but to say there’s no work would be laughable. They still struggle to get the sorts done. We’re not as big as CACH but we’re not far behind and I cannot imagine them being that much different. I would think they would be busier.

they said yesterday CACH was extremely heavy because we couldn’t get all our loads in time from there.

This week was busier than all of last peak here. The only department feeling any of the slow down is Feeders.


They wanna get rid of the Union, and the longer Union swallows this, the better chances for the company to succeed, this is what happened to Yellow, Union let them do whatever they wanted until the company went bankrupt. Just like other driver said here before, UPS has started being mismanaged, they're not saving money by laying people off and at the same time working our yard shifters for 60 hrs/week, paying heavy overtime, when everybody can just be working 8 and be happy. Imaging this, yesterday they started saying that another 15 feeders from 705 will get laid off, and yet they were asking for help in the yard for today, they posted extra work sheet for today and paying people time and a half for today, because they ran yard shifters out of hours during the week and no one has hours available for today. What else is this if not stupidity and mismanagement. I can't believe those people up there have gone so stupid....

Overtime is cheaper than benefits

They wanna get rid of the Union, and the longer Union swallows this, the better chances for the company to succeed, this is what happened to Yellow, Union let them do whatever they wanted until the company went bankrupt. Just like other driver said here before, UPS has started being mismanaged, they're not saving money by laying people off and at the same time working our yard shifters for 60 hrs/week, paying heavy overtime, when everybody can just be working 8 and be happy. Imaging this, yesterday they started saying that another 15 feeders from 705 will get laid off, and yet they were asking for help in the yard for today, they posted extra work sheet for today and paying people time and a half for today, because they ran yard shifters out of hours during the week and no one has hours available for today. What else is this if not stupidity and mismanagement. I can't believe those people up there have gone so stupid....


I will 100% agree with you that yellow went out of business because of mismanagement.

I will 100% disagree with you that the union allowed them to do whatever they wanted. The members voted every step of the way to make less money to take less money in their pensions.

there are some similarities, but yellows problems happened a couple decades before they went out of business trying to merge a bunch of companies together.


unfortunately, the union has no mechanism to stop a company from destroying itself


Overtime is cheaper than benefits

Yep, and apparently, so is paying all of these grievances. They are starting to hire finally, but it’s nowhere near the amount of people we could really use.



When they lay you off, at least at CACH, you will stay Feeder, but you need to bump somebody out of his/her job, and they will go inside or whatever, you can also choose to go straight inside, then you're guaranteed 40 hrs. In any ways, everybody gets their benefits paid, keeps their pay rate, pay progression etc. You see why it makes no sense ?

They do the same thing here when feeder drivers are laid off, but quite frankly the company wants many of these feeder drivers gone because they way over hired during Covid. Many of them came in under an MRA that paid them more money because at the time the company needed them so bad badly and now they don’t.They don’t need these drivers currently and the only time they’re working in Feeders is summer vacation and peak.Like I said, upwards of 60 are laid off almost all year currently and sometimes it goes even a little more than that.Currently many of them filed a grievance so they could start qualifying as package car drivers, and that has started because they won their grievance



They were not able to get your loads back on time not because it was busier, because they let people go, and they're shorthanded now. I was walking inside the Hub yesterday in the Outbound 10, half of the bays were open, because there's nothing to load in those trailers. When CACH is busy, all bays are occupied and lots are full of trailers.

That is very possible I am not there. You are. I’m getting that information secondhand. I’m just telling you it would make no sense to me that you are that dead and a hub that I work at is not that much smaller than yours and slammed pretty much all year.


They were not able to get your loads back on time not because it was busier, because they let people go, and they're shorthanded now. I was walking inside the Hub yesterday in the Outbound 10, half of the bays were open, because there's nothing to load in those trailers. When CACH is busy, all bays are occupied and lots are full of trailers.

I will say the company has grown a new hate for the Chicago locals. Perhaps they’re diverting volume away from them to make them suffer? Although that doesn’t really lineup with their getting rid of the smaller centers and older hubs.


Of course they don't need so many feeders now, after she made us loosing Walmart, Grainger, Amazon and possibly Best Buy. What new customers has she brought in ? Where's our sales team ?

I saw our sales team here for the first time in two years lol. I thought they fired all of them apparently not I have no idea what they’ve been doing.


Of course they don't need so many feeders now, after she made us loosing Walmart, Grainger, Amazon and possibly Best Buy. What new customers has she brought in ? Where's our sales team ?

Supposedly Carol wants to go after these large medical accounts and we have won a few of those lately, but they have nowhere near the volume of those other companies.



Spot on! CACH is already much automated, and they're still working on automating more conveyor lines. That's why I'm wondering that you guys are busy, we're slow as hell for the past 2 years. Every time I'm inside I see nothing on those belts, no packages, they're running empty, they could've just shut those conveyors down to save on the electricity bill.

Crazy because you’re facility is huge



Another thing, you're saying they hired too many feeders and they don't need them now, so why are they working feeders for 14 hrs/day then ? There's plenty of work for everyone if they work feeders for 8 hrs a day !

Same thing they do in package car although most feeder drivers want 14 hours at least the ones here. I didn’t say I think they hired too many feeder drivers. I’m saying the company thinks they did. The top 20% of feeder drivers in our local could retire tomorrow if they want to.


no way, 320 per year of service ? impossible !

Sorry bud, I was out of office when you called cap but I didn't forget about ya

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I'm told we have one of the best in the country. 5 years of credit my benefit is $1600

Wish I had those kind of numbers.


Sorry bud, I was out of office when you called cap but I didn't forget about ya

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He is shocked because he doesn’t understand that things are different in different parts of the country.


He is shocked because he doesn’t understand that things are different in different parts of the country.

Doesn't subscribe to FNN?


Doesn't subscribe to FNN?

No, he probably does. And he believes everything FNN says.

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